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Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 08:46:00 - [1] Originally by: BPO Polymerase Edited by: BPO Polymerase on 10/11/2006 08:37:04 Dear CCP, as I can see you are turning t1 BPOs into t2 by magic, I would like my Thorax BPO converted into a Deimos BPO please. Its currently being copied, inserted from my corps hangar. Kind regards, I am looking forward to hearing from you soon, and checking my hangar later. Did you get your thorax bpo from a R&D agent for research points like the cargo expander and shield boost amp bpo owners got theirs? Thought not, no deimos bpo for you.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:10:00 - [2] What would you have rather CCP did? Just left it like it was? Only the limited numbeer of T1 expander/SBA bpo owners capable of making copies and doing invention for t2 versions? Perhaps you would have ccp just seed them all on the market and screw over those who spent a lot of isk or research points to obtain the T1 CE/SBA bpos?
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:12:00 - [3] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 10/11/2006 09:09:51 Originally by: Za Po Wow, what an incredible number of cretins in this thread. The T1 BPOs in question were obtained via the R&D lottery, just as every single T2 BPO out there. Economically speaking, they have always been T2. Explain how making them actually T2 improves their value? The t1 versions have stabelised in price, theyre pretty cheap these days. The T2 version however will rake in mass profits as theyre brand new. Hence turning the t1 into a t2 just gives the already rich bpo owners even more money. Hell its like giving cap recharger II bpo owners the t3 version once invention drags the price down to sane levels. I dont like the lottery but **, this is an even **tier way to hand out bpos. Expanded I bpo owners have made billions already, they should have seeded the t1 version and put the t2 on the lottery, at least then everyone has a chance. Yeah you would say that, just seed the T1 one version and screw over all those who spent large sums of isk/research points to get the SBA1/CE1 bpos. These bpos came from the T2 lottery, seeding them on the market would screw over the bpo owners to the same extent that it would screw over T2 bpo owners if they seeded T2 bpo on the market.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:14:00 - [4] Just tell me, why would ccp go ahead and seed CE1/SBA1 bpos on the market when a few months ago these bpos were released via the research agent system for research points exactly like a T2 bpo.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:15:00 - [5] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Silver Lady Yeah you would say that, just seed the T1 one version and screw over all those who spent large sums of isk/research points to get the SBA1/CE1 bpos. These bpos came from the T2 lottery, seeding them on the market would screw over the bpo owners to the same extent that it would screw over T2 bpo owners if they seeded T2 bpo on the market. Im sure the billions upon billions theyve made would help them sleep at night By that logic, they may aswell seed all T2 bpos on the market since bpo owners have already made billions.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:17:00 - [6] Originally by: Mal Hondo Originally by: Siigari Kitawa Yes/no? Does anyone know if the BPC's made from the BPO's have been converted too? /Me hopes his 4000 runs of Shield Boost Amp I's got converted...... They did not, but you might want to hang onto it for invention.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:20:00 - [7] You have to laugh at the people who are spending 100m per unit for T2 expanders, T2 expander stats in kali have been changed to the same as local hulls, which go for 30m each.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:25:00 - [8] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: Silver Lady You have to laugh at the people who are spending 100m per unit for T2 expanders, T2 expander stats in kali have been changed to the same as local hulls, which go for 30m each. On SISI now? Yes.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 09:25:00 - [9] Originally by: Derkan wow, just wow.. this is even more screwed up than the T2 lottery. p.s. can up grade my cap recharger T1 bpo into a T2? ktxnbye You bought your t1 cap recharger bpo for about 80k from the market, or another player. T1 CE/SBA were released in the T2 lottery system the same way T2 bpos are, people had to win them and spend research points to claim them, since then they've either been gathering dust, or traded between players for billions of isk (10 billion isk being recent price for SBA1 bpo).
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:12:00 - [10] It seems there is one guy with 5 SBAII bpos, another guy owns 3, theres a few other guys with 2 bpos each, and god knows how many more i dont know about. I thought ccp wanted 20 of each t2 bpo, there could be loads of SBAII/CEII bpos...
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:26:00 - [11] Originally by: Cyrio Originally by: Grash Freedom Edited by: Grash Freedom on 10/11/2006 14:07:26 This is the only logical thing that can happen! Its the only way not to screw the holders of the prints that wasted billions on them, and they will get x3-4 the ammount they invested (fair enough) If CCP does anything else then.... we are all doomed and i mean that with the worst possible way EVE market WILL die! You mean they INVESTED in this BPO. Not all investments pan out. Tough cookies if they don't get thier money back. Can I buy stock in your company for a guarenteed pay off of x3-4 of my investment. The same could be said for those who dont invest and get nothing? You chose not to invest in one of these bpos and lost out, tough luck.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:35:00 - [12] Edited by: Silver Lady on 10/11/2006 14:34:57 Originally by: Cyrio Originally by: Silver Lady The same could be said for those who dont invest and get nothing? You chose not to invest in one of these bpos and lost out, tough luck. Actually as a newer player CCP has made it so myself an other new players are not allowed to participate in Tech 2 production. Why is that? I've seen SBA1 bpos for sale all over the place the past few months, they were very obtainable to all.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.10 15:02:00 - [13] SBA1/CE1 bpo owners should have been given 300 run copies, not bpos, some people have like 5 bpos, ccp basically gave them 500 billion isk. 300 run copies would be enough so they could make 300 units, sell at 30m each, 9 bill profit which is about what the bpos were worth.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.11 04:33:00 - [14] Originally by: Lord Frost I find it so hard to believe CCP would rather reward the rich instead of spreading wealth to the community who had stood by them and their hopes in the lottery for far longer than you can comprehend. I'll say it again, its wrong. I made my point... and until CCP steps up to the plate with an explantion that I can accept, or a nerf of this entire situation... they lost 2 accounts. How exactly is releasing 20 bpos via the lottery classed as spreading the wealth between the community? 20 whole people = the community? I say your just angry because you didn't get a bpo.
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.11 05:30:00 - [15] Seems there is a lot of people claiming their expanded cargo bpo didn't get converted, wonder how many of those people are just people who had their basic cargo expander converted to a T1 expander?
Silver Lady Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2006.11.13 14:50:00 - [16] Originally by: DeMundus Edited by: DeMundus on 13/11/2006 14:46:09 Originally by: Jennifer Meek Edited by: Jennifer Meek on 13/11/2006 14:37:12 Originally by: Rawthorm One of our guys looted his BPO a while back and it wasnt upgraded to T2. Was the upgrade selective and only a random number of people? He looted a basic bpo. There was only around 20 Expander I BPO's, and so far, I have seen over 30 people claim their BPO's didnt upgrade to T2. Bunch of liars. .. Make that 31 (including you) Fist of all no1 is lieing here - It says "Expanded Cargohold I blueprint" and its a Bpo, it does not say "Basic" Iam just tryieng to clearify thing not cheat myself into a t2. Ohh and older than 1+ year. Thx That's because all basic bpos got converted into T1, so if you have a T1 expanded cargo bpo, it used to be a basic but was upgraded.

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